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{{cpc-achi|2nd April 2024|Raised concerns with the Planning department about development at 11 [[Elm Gardens]].}}
{{cpc-achi|2nd April 2024|Raised concerns with the Planning department about development at 11 [[Elm Gardens]].}}
{{cpc-achi|2nd April 2024|Raised a formal objection to the proposal at 11 [[Elm Gardens]] (2024/0223): concerns about the size of the dwelling proposed, it being out of out of place, both in size and appearance contrary to policy.}}
{{cpc-achi|2nd April 2024|Raised a formal objection to the proposal at 11 [[Elm Gardens]] (2024/0223): concerns about the size of the dwelling proposed, it being out of out of place, both in size and appearance contrary to policy.}}
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== 2024 Planning Applications ==
===№ 11 ===
{{plan-app-decid|<!-- 1. APPLICATION NUMBER -->2024/1872|<!-- 2. ADDRESS -->11 [[Elm Gardens]]|<!-- 3. PROPOSAL --> Variation of Conditions: 1 (Approved Plans) and 2 (Material Samples) of planning permission 2024/0223 (Part two/part single storey extension, front porch, alterations to fenestration and driveway following partial demolition of existing house) to change external materials from bricks to render.|<!-- 4. CPC VERDICT --> This Application has many facets which need to be taken together, not in isolation from each other. Those interested are recommended to read the source material.|<!-- 5. EBC DECISION -->Grant Planning Permission.}}
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{{Minute-ext|<!--- 1. Meeting Date --->12th September 2024|<!--- 2. Council or Committee meeting --->Planning Committee meeting|<!--- 3. Item Number --->8|<!--- 4. Agenda --->Receive a report on EBC’s East Area Sub Committee Meeting and agree any action required.|<!--- 5. Content --->Nothing to report. Next meeting due to be held on 7th October.  It was noted that Cllr Coomes had not yet felt able to refer 11 Elm Gardens to the Committee, as EBC are still in discussion with the applicants.}}


===№ 11 ===
{{plan-app-decid|<!-- 1. APPLICATION NUMBER -->2024/0223|<!-- 2. ADDRESS -->11 [[Elm Gardens]]|<!-- 3. PROPOSAL --> Part two/part single storey extension, front porch, alterations to fenestration and driveway following partial demolition of existing house.|<!-- 4. CPC VERDICT -->Objection with Comments: CPC felt the new build would be incongruous with the area.|<!-- 5. EBC DECISION -->Householder Application [taken to EA PC by Cllr Coomes – hedging?]. Grant Planning Permission. 8 x Conditions - various. CPC’s concerns addressed in Sn’s 16-19 of the Committee Report. One might consider that the judgements made are entirely subjective ones made by the CO[?].}}
{{plan-app-decid|<!-- 1. APPLICATION NUMBER -->2024/0223|<!-- 2. ADDRESS -->11 [[Elm Gardens]]|<!-- 3. PROPOSAL --> Part two/part single storey extension, front porch, alterations to fenestration and driveway following partial demolition of existing house.|<!-- 4. CPC VERDICT -->Objection with Comments: CPC felt the new build would be incongruous with the area.|<!-- 5. EBC DECISION -->Householder Application [taken to EA PC by Cllr Coomes – hedging?]. Grant Planning Permission. 8 x Conditions - various. CPC’s concerns addressed in Sn’s 16-19 of the Committee Report. One might consider that the judgements made are entirely subjective ones made by the CO[?].}}


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{{plan-app|<!-- 1. APPLICATION NUMBER -->2024/1415|<!-- 2. ADDRESS -->11 [[Elm Gardens]]|<!-- 3. PROPOSAL -->Confirmation of Compliance with Condition 2 (Materials samples) of planning permission 2024/0223.}}
{{plan-app|<!-- 1. APPLICATION NUMBER -->2024/1415|<!-- 2. ADDRESS -->11 [[Elm Gardens]]|<!-- 3. PROPOSAL -->Confirmation of Compliance with Condition 2 (Materials samples) of planning permission 2024/0223.}}
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== Historical Notes ==
== Historical Notes ==
=== The Hare and Hounds ===
=== The Hare and Hounds ===
{{Hare and Hounds}}
{{Hare and Hounds}}

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PARISH COUNCIL ACHIEVEMENT 2ND APRIL 2024: "Raised concerns with the Planning department about development at 11 Elm Gardens."
PARISH COUNCIL ACHIEVEMENT 2ND APRIL 2024: "Raised a formal objection to the proposal at 11 Elm Gardens (2024/0223): concerns about the size of the dwelling proposed, it being out of out of place, both in size and appearance contrary to policy."

2024 Planning Applications

№ 11

ADDRESS: 11 Elm Gardens
APPLICATION NUMBER: 2024/1872
PROPOSAL: Variation of Conditions: 1 (Approved Plans) and 2 (Material Samples) of planning permission 2024/0223 (Part two/part single storey extension, front porch, alterations to fenestration and driveway following partial demolition of existing house) to change external materials from bricks to render.
CPC VERDICT: This Application has many facets which need to be taken together, not in isolation from each other. Those interested are recommended to read the source material.
EBC VERDICT: Grant Planning Permission.

VIEW DETAILS

Receive a report on EBC’s East Area Sub Committee Meeting and agree any action required.
Nothing to report. Next meeting due to be held on 7th October. It was noted that Cllr Coomes had not yet felt able to refer 11 Elm Gardens to the Committee, as EBC are still in discussion with the applicants.
(extract from Planning Committee meeting, 12th September 2024, item 8)


ADDRESS: 11 Elm Gardens
APPLICATION NUMBER: 2024/0223
PROPOSAL: Part two/part single storey extension, front porch, alterations to fenestration and driveway following partial demolition of existing house.
CPC VERDICT: Objection with Comments: CPC felt the new build would be incongruous with the area.
EBC VERDICT: Householder Application [taken to EA PC by Cllr Coomes – hedging?]. Grant Planning Permission. 8 x Conditions - various. CPC’s concerns addressed in Sn’s 16-19 of the Committee Report. One might consider that the judgements made are entirely subjective ones made by the CO[?].


ADDRESS: 11 Elm Gardens
APPLICATION NUMBER: 2024/1484
PROPOSAL: Non-Material Amendments to planning permission 2024/0223 to alter fenestration and finish.

VIEW DETAILS


ADDRESS: 11 Elm Gardens
APPLICATION NUMBER: 2024/1415
PROPOSAL: Confirmation of Compliance with Condition 2 (Materials samples) of planning permission 2024/0223.

VIEW DETAILS

Historical Notes

The Hare and Hounds

The earliest surviving deed of the Hare and Hounds is dated 1843, when it was already a public house and owned by John Ward with Thomas Weller as tenant. Before then it was a farmhouse. Weller also rented or owned the greater part of the land that is now bounded by Church Road, St Leonards Road, Common Road and The Causeway. On parts of this land he paid rent to the Curate and to the Earl of Lovelace. But Weller did not own or rent the strip of land which fronts Common Road on which The Griffin, Ash Cottages and Mathews Terrace were built, nor the triangular-shaped piece of land between 'The Hare and Hounds' and the shops called Claygate Hurst, now known as The Green.

In June 1866, the Hare and Hounds was auctioned by Messrs Norton, Trist and Co at the London Tavern, Bishopsgate Street. The lot comprised the Hare and Hounds public house which consisted of a bar, parlour, tap room, kitchen, cellar, sitting-room, three bedrooms and two attics, together with stables for six horses, a coachhouse, barn, skittle alley, sheds and a yard. Included with this lot were an orchard fronting Church Road, arable land of over six acres fronting St Leonards Road (known variously as Capel or Chapel field), and Claygate Hurst. In all, some eight acres and eighteen perches were on sale, and were purchased by RW Burrows on behalf of the Twickenham Brewery.

In 1896 the pub was purchased by Brandons Putney Brewery who sold it to Mann, Crossman and Paulin in 1950. Around 1900 the orchard on which Farley, (now Brynhyfryd), Appledore, Scoreby (now Dunelm) and Half Acre were built, and the land fronting St Leonards Road, were sold off separately by Brandons for building purposes.

In 1931, the Hare and Hounds was extensively altered to become much in line with its present exterior appearance, although the facade was subsequently simplified by the removal of some glass-covered porchways. And in the early 1970s the interior was modified and refurbished. In 1969, Mann, Crossman and Paulin became Watney Mann, which in turn subsequently became part of the Grand Metropolitan plc who are the present owners.

From time to time references are made to the Hare and Hounds as being an hotel, implying that in the past it provided overnight accommodation for travellers. It is also most likely that this public house, or hotel, took its name from the hunt that used to meet regularly for beagling — the pursuit of hares on foot with beagle hounds — at nearby Fee Farm. 'Capel Field' adjoining the Hare and Hounds was once the venue of the Leveret Cricket Club, before it became Elm Nurseries, and then in the late 1960s Elm Gardens and Blakeden Drive.